Yahoo and MSN listing algo?

[sixbhsw]

I think most of us understands the algo of Google listing: Linking from high PR, optimized keywords in Google, etc.

What is the algo for Yahoo and MSN? They don't have PR for measurement. Though they count links but on what basis do they count and value it?

I tried looking around for such stuff and the only thing I found was just on-page optimization for Yahoo and MSN.

Anyone care to share on that?

[JohnG]

In my experience, traditional on-page optimization techniques work really well in Yahoo!/Bing, while Google's first 20 results are heavily influenced by click through rates and social signals. As far as I know, [Yahoo/Bing] haven't released any public metric like PR. On several PAS properties, our ranks fluctuate on Google plus or minus ~8 spots depending on the click through rate that period, while on Bing the page tends to achieve a position and stick there.

Also, Google's PageRank isn't really a good metric: there's a public and a private PageRank variable, and we only see the public one.